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Blog 20!! "Twin Flames, III"

7/9/2021

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This morning, someone thanked me for telling these children's stories.
She, too, could see ghosts as a child.
She still does.
She said, "I am one of your Nebulous Children."
Another comment was...
"I am one of those children that you write about Dr. Lisa, thank you."

And THIS is why I decided to go public with the experiences of the children that I once served.

The feedback from other professionals and those who care about my success is truly appreciated.
​This  includes sharing all of your experiences, comments regarding my podcast,
and other types of support, thank you.

"I, too, know when my elderly patients see spirits before they pass away."
"They always talk to things that we as their caretakers cannot see, then they leave their bodies."
To all of you, from the bottom of my heart,
​THANK YOU!
Child G
Child G's closeness to me while speaking in a whisper used to give me the creeps, if I am completely honest. It used to give me a chill down the back of my spine. Remember the movie, "The Sixth Sense," when the little boy said, "I see dead people?" He said it as a whisper and that is the way that Child G spoke to me but while climbing on my lap or getting close to my left ear so that the ghosts could not hear what was said to me. Child G easily discussed the family's ability to see ghosts. Someone asked me about the mother, but she was not within their lives unfortunately, and I have no notes about her presence. 

Collectively, Child G explained that nighttime was when the ghosts were more active within the home. Child G would also come to therapy and see "The Little Ghost Boy," (I will discuss him more in future blogs), in building 2, the dark angel outside of the stairway window on top of the roof of building 3, and mostly about where the demons were located within their home. As a result of the children not being able to go down in the basement, a goal that I had was to try to determine whether or not these kids could actually see ghosts, or if they had been influenced by their father. This was not a goal for all Nebulous Children, but Child F and G's stories were very dramatic and profound. Nevertheless,
  • My immediate guess was that Child G at least, was able to see ghosts.
    • Remember, I just mentioned that Child G could see some of the same ghosts in the building that other children could and,
    • Child G described them in same manner as other Nebulous Children did within the building
      • I mean, every details was the same.
    • See the consistency amongst all of these kids?
      • Always remember that these families are confidential to one another
Child F
Child F was very similar to Child G with one big difference: Child F was a lot more quiet, and often sat on one of my bean bag chairs. While doing so, Child F would either stare at a closet in my office (there were 2 closets), the window closest the tree ("Angel in the Tree), or the back wall.

The closets were scary to me. Listen, I would not open up those doors. There were two of them, and they both were closest to the window with the tree outside of it, on that wall. From day one, when I walked into that office I refused to open those doors, but I still do not know why. Just something about those closets made me very apprehensive to open them. Ok, so one day months later, I decided to stop being a chicken and opened both doors. This was long after both of these children were no longer my clients. Child B had warned me not to open those closet doors too, but I did. Child B would tell me that something happened in my office and those closets, but the room was clear. Although Child B shared that room was clear, Child B nor Child B's mother would touch those closets (LOL)! I think they were fake closets, meaning not used for clothes but some type of way to carry things up and down to different floors in the early 19th century. I never opened them again.

Child F used to stare at those closets and I asked why one day. "I can hear them talking." In other words, the ghosts were talking to Child F from the closet, but they (the ghosts) were not allowed to come into my office. These were demons who followed these kids to therapy with me. How did I know? Because I kept a Bible in my office and prayed for protection. If an entity refused to enter my office, it was because they were not of God and not allowed to enter, and that's how I knew.

You see, this is why Child G decided to whisper. Child F told me,

"They can hear us from the closets." Aha moment...It all made sense to me. The demons were too close for these kids to feel comfortable talking to me without whispering. Child F did not whisper and spoke in a normal tone, but kept those eyes on the closet. Child F was fearful that the ghosts would be mad at them for talking to me, and try to take them into the portal. Neither child wanted to be captured by the demons. Interesting right?

Note: Although these kids were removed from their home, they explained that the demons followed them around to various places, including school.

Child F, in staring out of the window, shared that "The angel in the tree," would talk to Child F although Child F only stared at it. You see, the demons in the closet told Child F not to talk to the angel in the tree. Child F obeyed what was told to Child F about that angel. Child G confirmed this to me, but Child G was a bit more oppositional and believed that as long as the demons could not hear what was said, then they were safe.

In between the walls, Child F could hear the demons talking which is why Child F was quiet and stared at the wall. It was the back wall within my office. That wall was also connected to the waiting area were the "toys" were located. Recall, I spoke of those toys in earlier blogs, and that is the same wall that I am referring to as being a point of eye contact for Child F.

Yeah, you'd be nervous too!

Child G and Child F
Both children did share the events that led up to their removal from their homes. Clearly, they understood what was troubling their father, why he was incarcerated, his visuals, what was happening in their basement with the portal, and easily shared their ability to see ghosts. They were actually very good little Historians and gave me a wealth of information to begin working with them. As far as I can recall, they gave me more information than their State Case Worker who was unaware of their ability to see ghosts. However, this Case Worker did know about the reasons that the kids were removed from their home and the location of their father.

I began to share a few of the details that the children gave to me about their ability to see ghosts. You see, the Case Worker was their legal guardian and this information at the time, seemed important to know. However, this did not go over well with the Case Worker. I alluded to the response that this person gave to me about the children's abilities in earlier blogs and she was not very nice about this news at all. To be blunt, she felt as if the kids were "crazy" and if I did not address their "craziness," then she would remove them from my care as their therapist.

Okay! As if their mental health was not being addressed (enter eye roll emoji).

​Understand that my job was to help the children and if listening to their stories, even if they were not true helped them, then I am doing my job. Unfortunately, the Case Worker did remove them from my care a few weeks later, which was tragic to me because she did not give the kids the opportunity to heal under my care. The Case Worker wanted the children to immediately visit with our Psychiatrist and start medication management for their "delusions."
  • ​I firmly disagreed and let the Case Worker know my position.
  • It was too soon for the children to be removed.
    • They had just started therapy.
    • We needed to assess and address the impact of the trauma.
  • The Case Manager wanted a quick fix, not a solution.
    • Be careful here and try to get to the root of the problem if a client is stable.
      • These children were deemed stable.
        • No harm to self, others, or others harming them.
    • Medication will cover the symptoms, but not address where they start.
      • I like to see symptoms and get clients to discuss them.
    • Take your time when assessing and evaluating clients.
      • Patience is key.

​Perspective
  • Could these children have been influenced by their father since children are impressionable?
    • Absolutely.
      • However, once the children were removed from their father, the effects of their father's mental health should have decreased.
    • The children continued to state that they saw the demons too, as well as the portal.
      • That was concerning for me 
      • Their behaviors were also alarming
    • The children also accurately described other entities within building 2.
      • That includes the angels around me that other child clients referred to as well. 
      • I may have had 2 things happening here:
        • Mental Health
        • The ability to see ghosts
        • I did not work with the kids long enough to distinguish the 2

Dr. Lisa's Learning
From this experience, I immediately learned the following:
  • Continue to assess the differences between mental health and the ability to see ghosts carefully.
  • Not everyone will understand Nebulous Children.
    • Not everyone will need to know about their ability to see ghosts.
    • Choose who you discuss these children with wisely.
      • Not all will accept what they cannot see for themselves.
  • Protect these children by teaching them how to cope with their abilities.
  • Give more respect toward these children by guarding their feelings
    • I felt as if I could have done more to protect these kids to keep them under my care.
    • It was truly a learning experience.
      • About my clinical skills.
      • About Nebulous Children.
        • Their journeys are not always pleasant.
    • It was the 2nd time in my journey with Nebulous Children that I said, 
"This is Serious."

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